As a result of the shooting deaths at Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, the debate over gun control has been reignited.
In near-hysterical fashion.
But first, some facts.
Switzerland, Norway, Finland, Belgium, Austria and France all have higher mass shooting frequencies per million people:
Everytime someone says the U.S. has more mass shootings than other “developed” countries, ask them if they’ve corrected for the difference in population. The U.S. has a 300-plus million population and is 12th overall when you adjust for pop. Switzerland has a higher frequency.
— Richard Baris (@Peoples_Pundit) February 22, 2018
Rifles – of any type – are rarely involved:
If #guncontrol based on age limits work, then why do data sets from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) show only 3.6% of gun murders in the U.S. are committed with any kind of rifle? And how are those young men in Chicago killing each other with handguns? #UseYourBrain
— Richard Baris (@Peoples_Pundit) February 21, 2018
Young males are not the primary culprits:
Less than 10% of all mass shooters are 18-20 years old (most are middle-aged men). The biggest school massacre in U.S. history involved no guns, and the worst school shooting in our history involved two pistols. https://t.co/EDcqASVp1d
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) February 22, 2018
It can be anyone – using anything:
The most deadly mass murder at a U.S. school was committed by Andrew Kehoe on May 18, 1927, in Bath Township, Michigan. Kehoe, A MIDDLE-AGED MAN, killed 38 kids, 6 adults and injured 58 others. He used explosives, not a rifle. He was in his 50s, not 18-21. https://t.co/jOakOzwtOM
— Richard Baris (@Peoples_Pundit) February 21, 2018
Automatic weapons are intensely controlled and restriced – and have been for a long time:
The shooter didn’t use an automatic assault weapon. Automatic weapons have been heavily regulated and restricted for decades. New automatic weapons are were effectively banned for civilian purchase in 1986. See this @StephenGutowski thread for more info: https://t.co/MQT6rpmwY5 https://t.co/ytT8jFoIq6
— David French (@DavidAFrench) February 15, 2018
An AR-15 is not an assault rifle. It’s just not:
AR does not stand for assault rifle. It is not an assault weapon. I served in Iraq. Ive carried real assault weapons like the M249 and the M240B machine guns. Ive carried them more miles than I care to remember.
— J.R. Salzman (@jrsalzman) February 22, 2018
Citizens with concealed carry permits are among our most law-abiding:
Citizens with carry permits in FL and TX (the two states that keep these records) are up to seven times more law abiding than the police.
— Charles C. W. Cooke (@charlescwcooke) February 17, 2018
The NRA received much of the blame. But the NRA spends very little on political activities:
Between 1998 and 2017, the NRA spent $200 million on all political activities combined. Unions spent $1.7 billion on politics in the 2016 cycle alone. https://t.co/jazTlq1t1h
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) February 16, 2018
Very little:
In 2016, the NRA gave about $1 million total in campaign contributions — about 1/3 of a cent per citizen. Teacher’s unions gave about $33 million to candidates. By contrast, Procter & Gamble spent $4.6 billion on advertising. The NRA is a very small fish in the influence pond.
— Geoffrey Miller (@primalpoly) February 19, 2018
The truth of the matter is simple:
The NRA exists because people believe strongly in gun rights, not the other way around. Politicians get money from the NRA because they support gun rights, not the other way around. Focusing on the NRA shows you don’t understand the issue.
— Frank J. Fleming (@IMAO_) February 17, 2018
Which brings me to this:
Many journalists appear to be more interested in virtue-signaling than effectively communicating the statistics. https://t.co/kwKnmguKpc
— Kyle Becker (@kylenabecker) February 22, 2018
And this:
Could it be that guns aren’t the problem? https://t.co/K2NaxREKdw
— The Federalist (@FDRLST) February 21, 2018
This is actually a decent article:
Frickin’ GQ is better-informed about firearms than 99% of the MSM. GQ. Hang your heads in shame.
What Conservatives Get Right About Guns | GQ https://t.co/C3tl8HKsLv
— Nathan Wurtzel (@NathanWurtzel) February 20, 2018
For me a lot of it comes down to this:
This is really it. We all want a solution to keeping kids safe. We can talk about securing schools w/o talking about guns. 39Xs this kid interacted w LEO & no arrest.
That’s becuz of DIVERSION policies. Adults & kids tried to intervene. LEO & SB adicated responsibility!— Vivecka Lemke (@The__Claud) February 22, 2018
Local officials and the FBI carry much of the blame:
Lost in this entire conversation at the Florida House is that local officials and the FBI dropped the ball. We supposed to pass more laws for government not to execute effectively? Not a solution. Look, it’s the guy who dumped a murderer in our society. https://t.co/UFrOYeGY2m
— Richard Baris (@Peoples_Pundit) February 21, 2018
There were some major preventative failures:
Sept 2017, FBI was told of shooter’s “I’m going to be a professional school shooter” post on Youtube. FBI said today its agents couldn’t ID him — though he had posted under his name with same unusual spelling.
1/— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) February 15, 2018
2/ By that time, Sept 2017, the shooter had:
* been suspended from school for fights and for bringing ammunition to school;
* been expelled for disciplinary reasons;
* bought a gun (Feb 2017)— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) February 15, 2018
3/ The shooter’s social media footprint was also fairly disturbing by the time the FBI heard the complaint about his Youtube posting. And he posted under his own name.
— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) February 15, 2018
4/ In July 2017, under a news clip about the doctor who shot up the Bronx hospital where he used to work, someone posting under the shooter’s name wrote:”Man I can do so much better”
— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) February 15, 2018
5/ One month AFTER the complaint to the FBI, under a video of a Trump supporter being pushed around, someone with the same name as the shooter posted:
“I whana shoot people with my Ar-15”— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) February 15, 2018
Host family who originally took in shooter after his mother’s death warned local law enforcement that the 19-year-old had “used a gun against people before” and “has put the gun to others’ heads in the past,” according to records obtained by CNN. https://t.co/GvZ1IppMfY
— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) February 22, 2018
Tapper’s comments are worth noting.
All the signs were there.
Signs of a potential school shooter:
1) Tells people online that he’s going to be a school shooter
2) Messages classmates with death threats
3) Parents report that he has “put a gun to others’ heads in past.”
4) Authorities visit 39 times, 2 FBI tipsYET FBI DID NOTHING.
— Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) February 22, 2018
And the FBI did nothing.
Equally culpable, the progressive Diversion Policies of Broward County Schools were fundamentally flawed:
School Shooting Was Outcome of Broward County School Board Policy – Now Local and National Politicians Weaponize Kids for Ideological Intents… https://t.co/y1OcPDvIr4 pic.twitter.com/wvL8WkJSMy
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) February 19, 2018
Questions are now being asked:
Did the Progressive ‘Broward County Solution’ Cost 17 Student Lives? https://t.co/4TjYWQc94w
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) February 20, 2018
Some have asked these questions for years:
I begged the school boards to listen in 2013. I personally took the LEO affidavits to each school superintendent and pleaded for a policy review/change. They did nothing. One arrest of Nikolas Cruz would have stopped him from passing a firearm background check.
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) February 20, 2018
It may take a bit – but some painful truths will emerge:
It’s Too Late – Broward County School Board Beginning to Admit Their Mistakes?… https://t.co/kxsjbiFsO6 pic.twitter.com/VHfxaTN3QJ
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) February 22, 2018
Meanwhile, public policies are already in place that have proven effective elsewhere:
I just can’t figure out why we don’t employ known and proven defensive measures in schools that we employ in damn near every other govt. building
Mystery to me
— DaveinTexas (@DaveinTexas) February 20, 2018
An initial suggestion is made:
….History shows that a school shooting lasts, on average, 3 minutes. It takes police & first responders approximately 5 to 8 minutes to get to site of crime. Highly trained, gun adept, teachers/coaches would solve the problem instantly, before police arrive. GREAT DETERRENT!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 22, 2018
Public support is there:
Nearly half of all Democrats (and 81 percent of Republicans) support proposals to allow licensed teachers to concealed carry in schools. https://t.co/Ihcmkccbod
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) February 22, 2018
Personally I would be in favor of armed guards instead of – or in addition to – armed teachers:
The shares on this article in less than a day are because of you. The powers that be do their best to bury PPD, even though we have the most accurate track record in two years. https://t.co/nwQTto8t8d
— Richard Baris (@Peoples_Pundit) February 21, 2018
And I agree with this:
The whole thing is pretty simple. The first rule of a gunfight is to be somewhere else. The second rule, if you can’t follow the first, is to have a gun. Requiring schools to be free-fire zones exclusively for killers as a matter of law is stupid on stilts.
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) February 22, 2018
David French proposed an intriguing parallel tact – one that empowers family members and others close to a potential shooter – not the government who so often fails to act:
On a very divisive night, I’m going to re-up this piece. There is a way to empower people to respond to real real red flags without punishing millions of law-abiding gun owners. Here it is: https://t.co/JQk8vLphU2
— David French (@DavidAFrench) February 22, 2018
French wrote a follow up article in response to some criticisms:
A response to @jacobsullum — He thoughtfully critiqued my gun violence restraining order piece. Here are my thoughts: https://t.co/5qGmkJMeTH
— David French (@DavidAFrench) February 21, 2018
He also wrote in defense of the 2nd Amendment:
.@DavidAFrench wrote what I believe is the best defense of the Second Amendment I’ve seen in weeks. https://t.co/xt14kT9PJs
— Elliott Hamilton (@ElliottRHams) February 22, 2018
These thoughtful responses have been notable as many arguments surrounding gun control have been rife with propaganda.
Like this particularly shameful piece from ThinkProgress:
The NRA donated $10,000 to help train the Parkland shooting suspect to use a rifle https://t.co/pilyHhWS0q pic.twitter.com/tk0ZLwsCnh
— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) February 17, 2018
The article is shameful, disingenuous and denigrates true acts of bravery:
What this shameless clickbait headline doesn’t mention is the NRA donation went to the U.S. Army’s JROTC program — and what this article doesn’t mention is, during the the shooting, young JROTC members used the JROTC’s Kevlar sheets to shield a group of ~60 students from gunfire. https://t.co/CefY0GdRnD
— Jerry Dunleavy IV (@JerryDunleavy) February 17, 2018
And very real sacrifice:
Oh and by the way, here’s how those Junior ROTC kids actually acquitted themselves on that dreadful day. One of them sacrificed his life. https://t.co/4P4lzdN55E
— Jeff B. (@EsotericCD) February 17, 2018
Other journalists joined in the game:
BREAKING: students are in the waiting area of FL Gov. Rick Scott’s office – after being told he’s too busy to meet with them – chanting “shame on you!”
— Ali Velshi (@AliVelshi) February 21, 2018
Even when they knew the underlying facts:
More than 3,300 RTs on this. The reason for the governor’s absence? He was at a victim’s funeral. https://t.co/9cP6z3N8Um
— Jon Passantino (@passantino) February 21, 2018
CNN’s Chris Cuomo accused Senator Cruz of ducking an interview with the network. Senator Cruz responded:
That’s funny, I spoke to CNN for 15 mins yesterday about proactive solutions to prevent gun violence (like passing the Grassley-Cruz bill—which Dems filibustered—that would add $300 million for school safety) yet CNN has aired NONE of it. Why not air the (entire) interview? https://t.co/c4GZcqTbs7
— Ted Cruz (@tedcruz) February 16, 2018
Cuomo later retweeted an article “I was able to buy an AR-15 in 5 minutes”. Again, there were some problems:
Hey, @ChrisCuomo from CNN. Saw the article you retweeted: “I WAS ABLE TO BUY AN AR-15 IN 5 MINUTES”
Did you see the part where he admits to neither filling out the necessary paperwork (which would initiate the background check) NOR purchasing the AR-15? Weird. pic.twitter.com/wLfaiKCqaM
— Chet Cannon (@Chet_Cannon) February 21, 2018
He didn’t buy an AR-15 – or any gun – and wouldn’t have been able to:
Why we can’t have nice things.
(This person did not buy an AR-15, did not fill out any paper work and did not go through the required background checks. He literally looked at a gun, then said, ‘meh, maybe I’ll get it later’ and left before filling out paperwork and purchasing) https://t.co/1kssgx0jSX
— Mere Dake-O’Connor (@meredithdake) February 20, 2018
We’re open to honest debate. Emphasis on honest:
NOTE TO MEDIA: If you have an evidentiary case for a specific piece of gun control legislation, make it. But stop with the lies and the emotional manipulation. https://t.co/mtho8UETPY
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) February 21, 2018
In case you’re wondering. No, President Trump didn’t:
No, Trump Didn’t Make It Easier For People With Mental Illness To Buy Guns. My latest today at @FDRLST https://t.co/rZAQMedZRT
— Kyle Sammin (@KyleSammin) February 20, 2018
CNN held an emotionally charged Town Hall – but there were some problems:
ROTC student Colton Haab, who shielded students from the school gunman, says CNN scripted the entire townhall event and censored him from asking the questions that he wanted to ask.
CNN is pure propaganda. pic.twitter.com/AD1e7uGMV9
— Ryan Saavedra ?? (@RealSaavedra) February 22, 2018
CNN denied Haab’s claims – but again there were some problems:
CNN denies scripting questions for gun town hall — Says student Colton Haab wanted to deliver speech on arming teachers, not question. Network spox goes silent when pressed on why Lori Alhadeff, mother of victim, but not Haab allowed to give speech https://t.co/XyLortAS9c pic.twitter.com/WR7TPjSGTD
— Christian Datoc (@TocRadio) February 22, 2018
How quickly things change:
Old: Everything these kids say must be listened to and believed. Moreover, if it’s about policy it needs to be written up as legislation and enacted. To challenged them is terrorism.
New: This kid is a liar. https://t.co/Aw14dc3kq6— Derek Hunter (@derekahunter) February 22, 2018
It went downhill from there:
Student to Bill Nelson: What’s it like to have blood on your hands, killer?
Bill Nelson: …
Jake Tapper: Senator you don’t have to answer that. That’s for @DLoesch.
CNN: We didn’t script anything.This is CNN.https://t.co/WSEXX2GVBa
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) February 22, 2018
Almost like there was an agenda:
How scripted was the CNN anti-gun stunt? “One of the students asked Dana a question when she wasn’t even on the stage yet, which I thought was a bit odd.” https://t.co/WSEXX2GVBa
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) February 22, 2018
There was a bit of hypocrisy:
Sheriff to Dana Loesch: You’re not fighting for these kids, you’re fighting for the NRA.
Five minutes later, when asked why he didn’t Baker Act the shooter: Hey, “the only person responsible for this is the shooter himself,” okay? https://t.co/W6rLabRF47
— James Hasson (@JamesHasson20) February 22, 2018
Then this news broke:
Breaking News: A sheriff’s deputy who was the only armed guard during the Florida school shooting did “nothing” to stop it, the police said. He has resigned.https://t.co/nWzNudd7gs
— The New York Times (@nytimes) February 22, 2018
Imagine:
Imagine how different the CNN town hall would have gone if all the reporting today on the PBSO and BSO was known. Sheriff Israel used @DLoesch as a human shield
— Greg Pollowitz (@GPollowitz) February 22, 2018
The liberal gymnastics began. Some took note:
Civilians could never stop a shooter, so only cops should have guns.
The cop failed, and also only cops should have guns.
Gotta love “heads I win, tails you lose” logic from gun controllers. https://t.co/ZaORNVdbN0
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) February 22, 2018
A stronger case was actually made:
This is actually a key part of the case for private ownership of firearms. Nobody is required to come to your rescue, so you need the means to do it yourself.
— Robert Tracinski (@Tracinski) February 23, 2018
Oops:
The press has spent 8 days targeting the NRA for an epic law enforcement failure.
— EducatédHillbilly™ (@RobProvince) February 23, 2018
This:
This week’s gun control argument in a nutshell: because government failed at every level, you need to have your rights curtailed…by the government that just failed at every level. https://t.co/KkTBUp7iAH
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) February 23, 2018
CNN published this article today:
Months before Nikolas Cruz killed 17 people at a Florida high school, the family who took him in after his mother’s death warned police the teen had “used a gun against people before.” https://t.co/JcpMK7GUaq
— CNN (@CNN) February 22, 2018
Which prompted some responses:
Would have been a neat thing for someone to ask the Sheriff about last night on stage. https://t.co/ufxPCUYPDq
— Stephen Miller (@redsteeze) February 22, 2018
Ben Shapiro summed things up:
The media aren’t distrusted because Trump rips them. They’re distrusted because too many of them are partisans pushing particular positions, then taking umbrage at anyone mentioning that unpleasant fact.
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) February 22, 2018
It’s pretty clear much of this is going to backfire:
This stacked CNN show trial on behalf of full gun bans isn’t going to play the way gun control advocates think.
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) February 22, 2018
The ads write themselves:
Not sure I can think of a better GOP get-out-the-vote plan than “Nancy Pelosi and CNN are scheming to steal your guns.” https://t.co/FZhZ8DcQ9c
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) February 22, 2018
Do it:
So do it. Do it, Democrats. Propose full repeal of the Second Amendment and see how that plays at the polls. I dare you.
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) February 22, 2018
Thanks for the material:
The Republican ads of a CNN audience cheering a gun ban is gonna be a nightmare for Dems at midterms
— Ben McDonald (@Bmac0507) February 22, 2018
The gift that keeps giving:
So many political ads are being made tonight
Democrats:
We don’t want to take away yoru guns.Also Democrats:
(Video of #CNNTownHall – of liberals screaming….)TAKE THEM ALL !
TAKE THEM ALL !
TAKE THEM ALL https://t.co/8axrBcgNvD— Britton Tallar (@BrittonTallar42) February 22, 2018
Somewhere, some intelligent Democrat strategist is curled into a fetal position:
If they’re talking about mass bans on national television, it’s not a good day for restriction advocates. You’d think folks who’d covered the gun debate for eight years now would see that.
— Noah Rothman (@NoahCRothman) February 22, 2018
No. No they won’t:
Narrator: Dems will not push for this on an election year. https://t.co/imfRbClGW2
— Pradheep J. Shanker, M.D., M.S. (@Neoavatara) February 22, 2018
But that’s not going to stop Leftists from trying.
Obama’s former speechwriter on the age debate:
Lower the voting age to 16.
— Jon Lovett (@jonlovett) February 22, 2018
Truth:
The Left is desperately searching for a demographic that will support its insane ideas. Dumb kids fit the bill. https://t.co/3TyVGZQnSg
— Eric Spencer (@JustEric) February 22, 2018
Anything. Anything to win:
Today in Democrats whose solution to every issue is “change the rules because we think it will make it easier for us to win elections.” https://t.co/wexRASIV2M
— Dan McLaughlin (@baseballcrank) February 22, 2018
Self-unawareness raised to new levels:
CNN Reporter Presses DoD on Gun Control: ‘Can the Pentagon Really Continue to Stay Out of the Gun Debate?’ via @freebeacon https://t.co/TitsWAsffd
— David Rutz (@DavidRutz) February 22, 2018
Others noted the lurking issues:
“The 2nd Amendment is outdated. Also why can’t the army get involved in gun control?” https://t.co/dKUuWfJ9zS
— Stephen Miller (@redsteeze) February 22, 2018
This is a blue-check liberal:
Everyone has fantasies. Some of mine involve ripping guns from the hands of pathetic bubbas who think firepower = manhood. I want to rip their guns from them in front of their children while they scream and wail about their “freedoms”and the evil “gubmint”. Sorry not sorry…
— Tim Wise (@timjacobwise) February 21, 2018
Running into a hard reality:
See that wouldn’t happen because they have guns https://t.co/DMYYqdgcDB
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) February 21, 2018
Which brings us to what I call “hard truths”:
There is no shot that the policies for which the crowd cheers ever come close to becoming reality. All that’s happening is the ongoing demonization of those who disagree with unrealistic, vague and evidenceless anti-gun buzzwords.
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) February 22, 2018
America is unique on many levels:
The only way you’d get Australia-style gun confiscation in this country is either:
1) 100 years of cultural and political change.
2) Secession.
It’s a 100 year cultural fight with the momentum currently on gun-owners’ side or a split. Let’s just be real.
— David French (@DavidAFrench) February 17, 2018
Come and take them:
This is why saying “but the UK” or “but Australia” is so silly. Neither country had the cultural attachment Americans do, nor a “come and take them” mindset. Which, of course, is why America hasn’t done what they did. And so we come full circle. (3/3)
— Charles C. W. Cooke (@charlescwcooke) February 17, 2018
The NRA is the end result – not the cause:
The NRA and its money could disappear tomorrow and building a libertarian utopia on the moon would still be more plausible than repealing the 2nd Amendment.
— Frank J. Fleming (@IMAO_) February 17, 2018
Bueller. Bueller:
A good argument for raising the gun age is that the brain doesn’t properly mature until 25. Okay. But 8,000 people are killed annually on the roads by 16-20-year-olds. Why is that different? Is it? Is voting? Should someone be tried as an adult before they are 21?
— Charles C. W. Cooke (@charlescwcooke) February 22, 2018
Simple. Concise. Truthful:
None, I repeat, none of those policy proposals will work. They have not & will not. Security will. The only thing that will stop an active shooter fast enough is a response at the initial point of attack. I know this because I have experience being responsible for a public school
— Col. Rob Maness ret. (@RobManess) February 22, 2018
Look before you leap:
So there’s been a lot of these accusations of “you have blood on your hands” in recent days. And here’s the thing: People that rationalize common political views — be it gun rights or tax cuts — as the equivalent of murder are themselves edging toward justifying violence.
— Mark Hemingway (@Heminator) February 22, 2018
And the truest truth of them all:
The law enforcement response to the Parkland shooter should remind us of a sad truth: https://t.co/woMGvAi3XJ
— David French (@DavidAFrench) February 20, 2018
Stated slightly differently:
This week’s gun control argument in a nutshell: because government failed at every level, you need to have your rights curtailed…by the government that just failed at every level. https://t.co/KkTBUp7iAH
— Sean Davis (@seanmdav) February 23, 2018
There are no easy answers.
But we should be able to engage in open, honest debate.
David French’s proposal seems at first glance a proposal worth exploring.
It’s one of the few amongst a whirlwind of disinformation and Leftist noise.
Leftists are not liberals. They are focused on equality of outcome rather than equality of opportunity, and support communitarian control rather than individual rights when the two are in conflict. https://t.co/hKSchvv5xn
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) February 20, 2018
Meanwhile, keep an eye on developing events at the Broward County School District and Law Enforcement System:
5. The motive was simple. The school system administrators wanted to “improve their statistics” and gain state and federal grant money for improvements therein.
— TheLastRefuge (@TheLastRefuge2) February 23, 2018
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