Devin Nunes held an impromptu interview on Hannity. The entire segment was only seven minutes in length but covered a surprisingly wide range of topics.
Nunes provided updates on where the House Intelligence Investigation is at, obstacles encountered, where they are headed and the types of charges being considered.
Nunes also discusses overlay with Bob Goodlatte, Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, and the Inspector General’s Investigation.
Video below. A transcript follows:
HANNITY: Let’s first get your take on the firings of the deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe and the statement of the attorney general.
NUNES: Well, as you know we’ve had the FBI under investigation by our committee for a long time on FISA abuse and other matters, so it doesn’t surprise me that Mr. McCabe went. However, our investigation is still ongoing. Mr. McCabe still owes us answers no matter where he’s working and eventually he’s going to have to come forward and provide those answers.
HANNITY: He’s going to have to provide the answers, but I really see – he even seemed to in his statement implicate James Comey. Did you catch that as well, that he knew about the leaks in the media?
NUNES: Yeah. That’s why this is becoming so difficult, right? There are so many witnesses now who have testimony all over the map, which is why I think you continue to see this call for – somehow DOJ and FBI are going to have to have somebody who can actually investigate them and put all of this out there, you know, because we’re continuing to have problems in Congress just getting the information that we need.
The latest example of that, Sean, was the text messages that emerged on Friday night. We did not have those text messages and we had asked for those text messages back in October, November, and December. So, it’s very difficult for Congress to get to the bottom of this and every day, we find out something new.
Newly uncovered text messages showed that FBI Agent Peter Strzok was close friends with Judge Rudolph Contreras. The Judge assigned to – and suddenly recused from – General Flynn’s case. Contreras is also a FISA judge…
More on Contreras and Flynn here.
New Text Msgs Reveal FBI Agent was Friends with Judge in Flynn Case via @SaraCarterDC https://t.co/sTT3BtP62C
— Sara A. Carter (@SaraCarterDC) March 16, 2018
NUNES: However, I think at this point there are so many crimes that have to be investigated, they need to get somebody over there who’s going to run a thorough investigation and maybe work with the I.G. when that report comes out.
HANNITY: And do we know when we are finally getting this report? I mean, I keep hearing one former head of the FBI — top FBI officials say it is pure TNT.
There is no specific date set for the Inspector General’s Report. But we did get a possible hint:
President Trump says there will be a “major news conference” at the White House in about a month.
— Trey Yingst (@TreyYingst) March 19, 2018
NUNES: Yes, I don’t – I have not seen it. And I have not been briefed by Mr. Horowitz. That is really under the jurisdiction of the Judiciary Committee and the Oversight Committee. However, they do have a lot of – the I.G. does have a lot of information that my committee is very interested in when it comes to what we continue to look at and call it FISA abuse.
HANNITY: You know, James Kallstrom has been a longtime friend of this program and he actually made the statement – former assistant FBI director, “high-ranking people throughout the government had a plot to protect Hillary Clinton from being indicted.”
In your opinion based on what we know and 18 USC 793 which says you cannot mishandle classified information, similarly you cannot destroy it.
Then, of course, you have subpoenaed emails that are deleted, acid washed, bleach bit, busting up devices with hammers. Do you have any doubt in your mind that those are crimes?
NUNES: Well, as you know, our committee continues to look at conspiracy. We are looking at obstruction, we are looking at misleading Congress and also there’s the statute in the civil rights code that involves I think abuse of power and using your position to go after someone personally.
Actually, Gregg Jarrett, I’ve seen on your show many times, he’s talked about this, this provision. And so, there’s many crimes that have to be looked at, you know, but I keep reminding people, Congress cannot prosecute.
All we can do is make a referral to the Justice Department and then the challenge is, who are we going to refer it to, because as you know, we don’t know who over at the Justice Department is involved in this, who would have to recuse themselves because of their involvement and their knowledge of what happened over the last few years.
There may be a prosecutorial team already in place. See, McCabe’s Firing, Comey’s Contradiction & Outside Prosecutors.
AG’s office confirms this is NOT the IG, but a separate “senior federal prosecutor” outside DC. https://t.co/x7OFhZB30s
— Shannon Bream (@ShannonBream) March 8, 2018
HANNITY: This poll that I referred to in the last segment about the deep state is very telling.
Poll: Majority believe ‘deep state’ manipulates U.S. policies https://t.co/rNYldRR9y1 pic.twitter.com/4xWgc5XTrX
— POLITICO (@politico) March 19, 2018
Poll: 74% of Americans now believe in the concept of the “deep State” (an unelected, manipulative security complex having undue influence over national policy). 53% of Americans are worried about it spying on them. The concern is bipartisan. https://t.co/0HId4VZl8v pic.twitter.com/XMjd8CAzCk
— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) March 19, 2018
HANNITY: I want to ask you about two issues involving James Comey. The president pointed out a testimony – that James Comey was under oath to Senator Graham, “have you ever been an anonymous source, or known someone else to be an anonymous source?” He said, never, no.
Do we now know that’s not true with the leak that we know he was involved in?
NUNES: Well, you bring up a very valid point. So, somebody is lying, right? So, we don’t know – we don’t know who, but those stories don’t jive.
Either Comey or McCabe is lying. See, McCabe’s Firing, Comey’s Contradiction & Outside Prosecutors.
NUNES: This is all out there now, they are going to start to cover up their tracks, but this is why we have to have them back in to answer these questions. You know, we still have a questionnaire that’s out that they have not responded to. That’s unacceptable.
Nunes is referring to Phase II of his investigation involving the State Department. See, Devin Nunes – An Interview, 10 Questions & Phase II.
NUNES: You know, we needed to know, when exactly did they learn that the dossier was paid for by the Democratic Party and the Hillary Clinton campaign?
HANNITY: We do have evidence of what Hillary Clinton did as it relates to the email server. We do have evidence that in fact an exoneration was written before an investigation. We do have evidence that Hillary fixed a primary and we do have evidence that she paid for a phony dossier funneling money through a law firm and that dossier that she paid for was then used to get and obtain a FISA warrant with great omissions and lies on four separate occasions to FISA judges. Am I wrong on any of that?
NUNES: No. That’s exactly right. What we are trying to determine here is who was involved at the FBI and the Department of Justice that made these decisions to move forward, not only to make a decision on what to do with the Clinton campaign – that’s what Mr. Gowdy and Mr. Goodlatte are investigating and the I.G., Mr. Horowitz. But we are also trying to look at who made this decision to open up this investigation and why was it done?
Here’s a quick update on Goodlatte’s Investigation:
SCOOP: House Judiciary Chair Goodlatte is expected to subpoena the DOJ as soon as this week. While one source w/ direct knowledge of matter cautioned exact timeline is unclear, multiple sources say summons expected to go out as early as Wednesday or Thursday.
— Olivia Beavers (@Olivia_Beavers) March 20, 2018
A subpoena may be issued as soon as tomorrow…
Here’s a partial list of those known to be involved at the FBI and DOJ – Resignations, Demotions & Some Details – Complicity at the FBI & DOJ.
The State Department is involved as well. Nunes is just beginning his Phase II investigation.
Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and CIA Director John Brennan – along with senior Obama officials like Loretta Lynch, Susan Rice and Samantha Powers – are also complicit.
NUNES: Because it doesn’t appear to me like they have any credible evidence to open up a counterintelligence investigation. And that’s what we just can’t have in this country, where you have political dirt that’s paid for by one political party and used against another, especially using our foreign intelligence capabilities. It just can’t happen in this country.
HANNITY: It’s illegal. The comments seem very arrogant from both James Comey and Brennan this weekend as it relates to the president. It seems personal and it seems abusively biased. What is your reaction to their comments?
NUNES: I saw those comments over the weekend and I was really quite surprised, because – this is again not helping where we have to go in this country.
The American people expect the intelligence agencies not to be political. And what you are seeing is the comments that are coming out from the highest levels of the intelligence agencies from the last administration are quite alarming. I mean, this is just way out of character.
You don’t see former CIA directors making those types of comments like Mr. Brennan made over the weekend. I don’t know why he did it. Maybe he should retract it. But we will see.
When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history. You may scapegoat Andy McCabe, but you will not destroy America…America will triumph over you. https://t.co/uKppoDbduj
— John O. Brennan (@JohnBrennan) March 17, 2018
Brennan is up to his eyeballs in all this. Clapper as well. See, Did Clapper & Brennan Use the Steele Dossier in the Intelligence Community Assessment.
HANNITY: All right. It seems what James Kallstrom said, that high-ranking people throughout the government had a plot to protect Hillary from being indicted – and I would add undermining Donald Trump.
Mr. Chairman, thank you, sir, for being with us, we appreciate it.
NUNES: Thanks, Sean.
In a semi-related side note, a 2012 Obama Campaign staffer made this admission regarding their use of Facebook data on March 18, 2018:
They came to office in the days following election recruiting & were very candid that they allowed us to do things they wouldn’t have allowed someone else to do because they were on our side.
— Carol Davidsen (@cld276) March 19, 2018
Because they were on our side…
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